Tuesday, August 9, 2011

Minutes July 20, 2011


Cloverleaf Center Condominium
July 20, 2011 Board of Directors Meeting
Upcounty Regional Services Center Conference Room A
12900 Middlebrook Road
Germantown MD
Minutes

              I.      Farouk Youssef called the meeting to order at 7:03 PM.
            II.      Proof of announcement: Notice of this meeting was sent December 15, 2010, and a sign announcing the meeting was placed at the entrance to the community.
          III.      Establishment of a quorum of the Board.
a.        Mr. Youssef, President;
b.       Andrew Kim, Vice President, not present. Mr. Kim gave instructions that Mr. Youssef has his proxy for this board meeting.
c.        Peter Franke, Treasurer, present;
d.       Hinaya Jainoor, not present. Ms. Jainoor has appointed Mr. Youssef as her proxy for all matters being discussed at the Board Meeting on July 20.
e.       Diana Smith, present, establishing a quorum of the Board.
          IV.      Mr. Youssef corrected page 3, item VI.4.c. of the handout, draft minutes of the June 15, 2011 meeting.
a.        Mr. Youssef stated: “What I said is that the 74% delinquency rate might have been the reason we are not getting a loan from the bank, because credit bureaus and banks talk to each other.”
b.       Mr. Youssef moved, and Mr. Franke seconded, a motion to correct the draft. Vote: 5 Aye, 1 Abstain, 0 Nay.
c.        Mr. Franke moved, and Ms. Smith seconded, a motion to approve the June 15, 2011 minutes, as corrected. Vote: 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
            V.      Management report & the progress made by Summit during the past thirty days (7:10 PM)
a.        Tiffany Hope was present to take notes for Summit Management Services, Inc.
b.       Ms. Hope read the following statement from a July 14 Summit Management Memo:
“Mr. Krueger challenges the assertion made under VI (4)(c) of the June 16, 2011 minutes that Summit repeatedly reported a 74% delinquency rate to one bank that turned down the association application for a loan. The wording in the minutes suggests that Summit was asked to provide a delinquency rate to one bank on more than one occasion, and responded more than once by submitting a 74% delinquency rate. Mr. Krueger believes that the bank to which the minutes refer is BB&T, as he was copied on two emails Peter Franke sent to Joseph Inzerillo, the loan officer handling intake of the documents at BB&T, on May 14 and May16th, 2011, respectively, attached to which were aged-owner balance reports that Summit Management had prepared and sent to Mr. Franke and other members of the board. The reports Summit prepared and provided to Mr. Franke and other members of the board do not state a delinquency rate of any percentage; they are listings of aged owner balances, one for the Special Assessment only, dated April 30th, 2011, and one for all owners, also dated April 30th, 2011. At no time did any representative from Summit Management provide BB&T with a report directly. All reports were sent directly to Peter Franke and other members of the board and, presumably, reviewed and approved for distribution by the Board or one or more of its members. Mr. Franke sent these reports to Mr. Inzerillo along with lengthy explanations of the aged balances and clarifications. Therefore, Summit neither explicitly reported a delinquency rate of 74% to any bank or the board for that matter, nor provided any report whatsoever regarding delinquencies directly to any bank.”
c.        The meeting room for the Annual Meeting has been scheduled for October 26 (anniversary), rather than October 19 (third Wednesday.)
d.       The attorney will not submit the FHA forms without authorization from Board.
e.       Action items:
                                                               i.      Reconsider tabled proposal for work (swale and tree replacement) behind 14 DPD;
                                                              ii.      Brickman request regarding the flowers at the community entrance;
                                                            iii.      Status of Chen, Walsh, Techler, McCabe.

          VI.      Continuing Business (7:15 PM)
a.        Oct 26 election of a Plex Director to a two year term. [The Plex Director who was elected with the fewest votes in the last election served a two year term.] Instructed Summit to mail letters to Plex Unit owners:
                                                               i.      Call for Nominations (by August 12, 2011);
                                                              ii.      Notice of Election (on September 26, 2011).
b.       Building envelope Report
                                                               i.      The Board and Kirby McCleary met for two hours on July 13 at Structura (see below) to open the bids and compare them by quantitative price factors and qualitative factors, such as previous work.
1.       The roofs will not be patched as previously thought, as our tiles are no longer legal, and cannot be matched; prices include whole roof replacements.
2.       Eliminated two bids as outliers by quantitative ranking based on price.
3.       Ranked the four remaining bids by quality factors as well as by price.
4.       On July 28, we will interview (with our engineer, who devised a list of questions) the two top ranked bidders. We will choose the final one, and work with that bidder to try to amend the contract price.
5.       Ms. Smith asked if we will consider just these two at the July 28 meeting. Mr. Youssef stated if one of the two defaults, we will go to the other, not restart the process.
6.       Mr. Youssef moved to pay two Structura bills as soon as possible: $481 (June 13) for preparing a list of bids; $999 (June 30) for additional bid items and questions. Mr. Franke seconded. Vote 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
                                                              ii.      Bank loan
1.       Mr. Youssef said last meeting that he believed that we were close to obtaining a loan from PNC. However, at the last minute, their underwriter turned us down for what Mr. Youssef sees as a fictitious reason: Not enough collateral.
2.       This reason is laughable, even to the VP of the bank, who has found for us another source of financing, as he thought we have a healthy package. We will pursue it to see why we don’t have enough collateral: We have more than $300,000 cash ready, and each building is valued above $3,000,000.
c.        Mr. Youssef moved to pay to Guardian $7304 from the operating funds as a deficit for fire system repairs. This expense is to be added to the 2012 budget. Mr. Franke seconded.
                                                               i.      Mr. Franke noted that the amount billed [in the management report] is confusing, and Mr. Youssef asked Ms. Hope if she had a copy of the bill with her. As she did not, Mr. Youssef stated we will discuss this matter without the exact number. Mr. Youssef noted:
1.       Several months ago, the Board approved the recommendation of Guardian (replacement of defective sprinkler heads) as necessary for compliance with Code. The work should have been done a few years ago, but the can was kicked down the road.
2.       Since sprinkler head repairs are not itemized in the current budget, the question is how to pay for these repairs. Some have suggested paying as a reserve fund item. Mr. Youssef says he is not convinced that this ever was a reserve item [it is listed as an unfunded break-out expense in the 2010 annual budget.] Furthermore, the operating account can take care of this, as we have at least four (rather than three) months of operating expenses on hand.
                                                              ii.      Mr. Franke noted that sprinkler system repairs are an LCE budget item; each $10,000 of LCE expense costs each Plex unit owner $8.50/month.
                                                            iii.      Vote: 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
d.       Accounting
                                                               i.      Mr. Youssef moved to close the session at 8:30 PM to discuss collections & errors. Mr. Franke seconded. Vote 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
                                                              ii.      Mr. Youssef moved, and Ms. Smith seconded, a motion not to file with FHA at this time.
1.       Delinquencies: FHA regulations require that no more than 15% of the total units can be in arrears (more than 30 days past due) of their condominium association fee payments.
2.        Mr. Youssef stated that he is appalled that 25% of the units in our community are delinquent in regard to their association fee payments. If those who owe less than $1000 (a total of about $6000) each paid just what they owe, our delinquency rate would be less than 10%, and we would qualify for the other 75% of the market we lose without FHA approval.  Our Vice President will write up a nice letter for the 25% of our community who don’t care either about themselves, or about our community.  [Ira Salins suggested sending the letters to the mortgagees.] One delinquent owner owes just $8-$10. That is a pitiful amount of money, but it is hurting us all. Therefore, forgo a movie or a dinner out, and just pay up! At the end of the day, it is mathematics. The attorney fees will snowball, and the units will be put on the market at auction to collect our dues. That is where we are going, because these delinquencies are hindering us from getting a suitable loan. Once we choose a contractor, we need money.
3.       Vote: 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
                                                            iii.      Motions to correct reports that may cause harm to Association members:
1.       Mr. Franke moved to instruct Summit Management Services, Inc., to correct the language stating “Total Delinquent Special Assessments” so as to state “Pay-off amount” (e.g., the $908,269.21 reported on the last page of the June 30, 2011 Financial Statement, titled Cloverleaf Center Condominium Special Assessment Bank and Owner Account Balances Reconciliation), as agreed. Mr. Youssef seconded, stating that we need the management company to protect us, not stab us in the back. Vote: 4 Aye, 1 Abstain, 0 Nay.
2.       Mr. Franke moved to refer Elan Krueger, President, Summit Management Services, Inc., to email that originated from Accounting@summitmanage.com, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, which stated: “110 units delinquent as of today-74% owners are delinquent.” Ms. Smith seconded. Mr. Franke wishes once and for all to have this long standing issue corrected. The issue is not about a bank that is not even our Association’s bank, which Mr. Krueger refers to in the diatribe read into tonight’s minutes [V.b.] The issue is, instead, about consequences of the cited email. Vote: 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
e.       Mr. Youssef stated that it is not so easy to get out of the contract as the litany of stuff Elan has done. We did not breach the contract; we did suggest separating accounting, and keeping the management. There are only two ways that the BOD will release management from the contract:
                                                               i.      We find a suitable replacement which fully satisfies our needs, or
                                                              ii.      December 31, 2011, when the contract runs its course.
f.         Architectural Control Committee report on 13055 Bridger Dr
                                                               i.      The Board held an extraordinary meeting at the site (see below), discussed the space and the disconnect box, and explained that the request as stated would encroach on a neighbor. The Board asked at least three times for the County Code that relates to existing structures, and received the National Code each time.
                                                              ii.      The Board responded within 30 days to the ACC request:
1.       Owner obtained the requested signatures.
2.       ACC approved the ventilation pipe if the owner agrees to mitigate any damages or repairs due to the installation of the ventilation pipe.
3.       ACC did not approve an a/c compressor of larger physical size than one that fits in the existing available space.
4.       ACC did not approve moving an existing breaker box from an existing building.
5.       Existing buildings have a different existing building code. Contractor should find out about that from the office of the DPS.
                                                            iii.      Mr. Youssef stated that if the ACC decision is not acceptable, there is a mechanism to appeal it. The appeal is with a legal authority.
                                                            iv.      The Unit owner mailed a letter to the Board at the PO Box. The Board will respond within 30 days, as required, to letters mailed to the Association’s PO Box, or to the management company.
                                                              v.      In addition, several members of the Board received certified, return receipt letters mailed to their private addresses. The Board will open those letters during this meeting. In that regard, Mr. Youssef stated that the Unit owner must understand one thing: We on the Board are all volunteers. We have private lives. We do not want knocks on our doors, and we do not want to be sent letters in a manner we believe was designed to intimidate us; I will not be intimidated. The letters addressed to the residences of the Directors were opened.
g.        Mr. Franke moved to pay Brickman for the annuals planted at the entrance, in exchange for Brickman’s two for one offer of free Fall color. Mr. Youssef seconded. Vote: 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
h.       Continuation of the $1255 Brickman proposal:  Ms. Smith stated that river birch is an appropriate tree between Phases 6 and 7, other than at the proposed price.  Mr. Franke suggested planting one rather than two trees at that location. Additional discussion:
                                                               i.      Is the dead hemlock by Bldg 1 the other dead tree proposed for removal?
                                                              ii.      Ask Brickman to add to the proposal a cost estimate to replant the bare spot on the berm, adjacent to Crystal Rock Dr. and Bldg 3, so as to discourage the foot traffic through that spot, as has been discussed on occasion during the past two years.
i.         Mr. Youssef moved to table the discussion so that Elan can get answers from Brickman, and a modified proposal. Mr. Franke seconded. Vote: 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
j.         Ms. Smith noted that several service requests, including shrubbery items and concrete work, have dropped out of the discussion, and specifically mentioned 13033 B. landscaping concerns.
        VII.      New Business (8 PM)
a.        Mr. Franke moved to instruct Summit to write a separate monthly check for any expenses over the $2680 monthly management fee, and to itemize & explain in detail disbursements to itself, from January through June, 2011. Mr. Youssef seconded. He stated that the monthly checks written to Summit Management since January are close to $4,000 per month, and that the Board would like to have an itemization and detailed explanation of what it is over the $2680 contract price. Vote: 5 Aye, 0 Nay.
b.       Mr. Youssef asked Ms. Hope for the status of the 2010 audit.
                                                               i.      Ms. Hope stated that although she cannot find the Representation Letter, Mr. Krueger had left instructions that it requires signatures of the Board (President and Treasurer.)
                                                              ii.      Mr. Youssef stated that we don’t have it.
                                                            iii.      Ms. Smith, noting that we are now in the later part of July, also noted that Summit had previously told the Board that the hold-up was that the auditors had been unable to get to the office, and that the audit would be ready July 18.
c.        New ACC business: None
      VIII.      Community Forum (8:20‐8:30)
a.        Issues raised by Ira Salins included: Trash cleanups (there was a sad lack of owner participation when we tried), lawn cutting (bring to the attention of management when its noted), incomplete repairs to a neighboring TH unit (the owner has a contractor), whether the AC request is an ACC issue (not previously; there is a 3 ton AC model that will fit; the ACC will not move the disconnect box), and if a rusted mailbox can be replaced (not until it falls.) Wade Owen asked for a summary how much money is in the reserves and the special assessment (on June 30: $293,795.92 in the reserve account, and $165,548.01 in the special assessment account.) Nicole Youssef noted that some residents are putting out their trash 24 hours before (owners are to ensure that residents do not put trash out before 7 PM the evening before a pick up day.)
           IX.      Adjourned to closed session (8:30 PM)
             X.      Closed session (8:30 PM)
a.        WTP
                                                               i.      The status of specific WTP cases was discussed.
                                                              ii.      Mr. Youssef suggested that WTP mail documents directly to Mr. Youssef, who will sign and mail them back.
                                                            iii.      Owners who have not paid fines for violations: The Board wants to know the progress.
b.       Error corrections: With regard to corrections for two known cases of errors detected this month, Ms. Smith asked if there are errors in other accounts. The Board was told previously that it does not have all the information. The Board expects full access to all information.
c.        McCabe: Mr. Youssef previously told Mr. Krueger that we will not pay the McCabe bill because we have already paid what we found was legitimate.
           XI.      Adjournment (9:00)



Cloverleaf Center Condominium
Continuation of Architectural Control Committee Hearing
June 17, 2011, 7:00-8:00 PM

Farouk Youssef, Noorul Hinaya Jainoor, Andrew Kim and Peter Franke met for the purpose of examining Andrea Ducker’s Architectural Change Application (13055 Bridger Dr) at the site of the air conditioning condenser and breaker box, and within sight of the vent pipes (outside 20546 Golf Course Drive.) Mr. and Mrs. Albert Ducker and George Stillman were also present.



Cloverleaf Center Condominium
Meeting of the Board of Directors
401 North Washington Street Suite 900
Rockville, MD 20850
July 13, 2011, 6:30-8:30 PM

Farouk Youssef, Andrew Kim, Noorul Hinaya Jainoor and Peter Franke met (Article III, Sections 9 and 10, and elsewhere) with Kirby L. McCleary at the offices of Structural Rehabilitation Group, LLC. Diana Smith expressed her regrets, as her workload preempted participation.

The work of the meeting was quantitative evaluation of the bid summary of June 13, 2011 in order to rank the bids, and selection of two top bids for invitation to further interviews. Qualitative factors (generally, negatives) were also considered.

There was unanimous agreement to approach two of the bidders with requests to discuss their qualifications, review similar projects, review their bids, and meet the key personnel they plan to assign to this project should it be awarded to that company.

Minutes June 15, 2011

Cloverleaf Center Condominium
June 15, 2011 Board of Directors Meeting
7:00‐9:00 PM
Upcounty Regional Services Center Conference Room A
12900 Middlebrook Road
Germantown MD

Minutes, corrected

                    I.      Call to order, 7:04 PM: Farouk Youssef opened with the following:
a.      During this Board’s first open meeting, almost two years ago, we voted to abide by Robert’s Rules of Order, as amended. We have since worked in that frame fantastically.  The meeting tonight is no different. Tonight we face pressing problems, and the rules will be in force for everyone (Board members, residents, and guests.) At the end of the meeting there will be an open forum; until then, no interruptions and no speeches, unless recognized by the Chair.
b.      Mr. Youssef introduced the members of the Board and the Summit Manager.
                  II.      Proof of announcement:
a.      Notice of the meeting was sent December 15, 2010.
b.      A sign was placed at the entrance to the community.
                III.      Establishment of a quorum:
a.      Mr. Youssef, President,
b.      Andrew Kim, Vice President,
c.       Peter Franke, Treasurer, and
d.      Hinaya Jainoor: Present, establishing a quorum of the Board.
e.      Diana Smith was absent due to an emergency.
               IV.      Correction and approval of the May 18 and June 2, 2011 minutes:
a.      Mr. Franke moved to correct the May 18 and the June 2 minutes. Motion to correct seconded. Vote 4 Aye/0 Nay.
b.      Mr. Youssef moved to approve by mutual assent the May 18 and June 2, 2011 minutes, as corrected. Motion seconded.
                                                                    i.      Mr. Franke stated that the formal copy placed in the minute book contains all corrections and that none of the many copies circulated to members and marked by them is authoritative.
                                                                  ii.      Vote 4 Aye/0 Nay.
                 V.      Management Report by Elan Krueger of Summit Management Services, Inc.:
a.      Mr. Krueger requested mutual release from management with an end date of June 30, stating a fundamental and irreconcilable disagreement.
                                                                    i.      Mr. Krueger stated that the Association’s auditor and collections attorney agree that Summit has handled the account appropriately.
                                                                  ii.      The Board asked to remove an individual from work on the account.
1.      The in-house CPA reviewed the account; it is essentially correct. 
2.      The BOD refuses to pay for executive level work.
b.      Summit forwarded all documentation to support application for FHA approval to the attorney, except the delinquency status report.
                                                                    i.      Mr. Krueger stated that he prefers that the Board send the delinquency report, along with a disclaimer to not hold Summit liable.
c.       The insurance claim against the master policy for water damage to 20526 GCD from 13015 B totals about $27,000.
                                                                    i.      Mr. Krueger expects subrogation of the claim ($23,279.91 repairs plus $4382.13 emergency response) to the owner of 13015B.
d.      Summit is awaiting Guardian’s response regarding the side-wall sprinklers.
e.      Brickman proposes replacement of the damaged bricks by using existing bricks from less noticeable on-site locations, for $300.
f.        Brickman proposes removing the dead tree and stump between Phases 6 and 7, planting two trees (river birch), and adding soil and seed to address the drainage issue, for $1255.
                                                                    i.      Mr. Franke recommends waiting for Ms. Smith’s input on this choice.
                                                                  ii.      Mr. Krueger expressed his concern that Brickman has made several proposals that the Board has not approved.
g.      Summit sent ACC violation letters to ten TH owners for paint, wood trim.
                                                                    i.      There has been one response, and some repairs without response.
h.      The violation letter for 20537 GCD has been re-sent to the owner’s address in Boyds.
                                                                    i.       A rescission letter will be sent to 20533 GCD. This letter will, however, note the other ACC violations.
i.        Mr. Krueger announced that the meetings for the remainder of the year have been booked for the third Wednesday of each month.
                                                                    i.      Mr. Franke asked that the October meeting be rescheduled on Oct 26 (The Bylaws require that the Annual Meeting be on the anniversary.)
                                                                  ii.      Mr. Youssef stated that there will be an election for a Plex Director at the Annual Meeting, and asked to follow the timeline in the Bylaws.
                                                                iii.      Mr. Krueger stated he has a schedule for mailing the nomination letters, proxies, etc.
j.        Mr. Krueger provided a printed current roster of unit owners.
                                                                    i.      Mr. Franke will distribute to the members of the Board.
               VI.      Continuing Business:
a.      Accounting:
                                                                    i.      Delinquencies and FHA renewal:
1.      Mr. Youssef stated that the position of the Board is that Mr. Krueger should provide to the lawyers whatever number for delinquencies that he wants.
2.      Mr. Franke noted some consequences that may result from delinquencies: 
a.      Loss of value for owners because of difficulty refinancing or reselling their units.
b.      Decrease of family-ownership and increase of non-owner occupancy.
c.       Difficulty obtaining a bank loan for rehabilitation and renovation.
3.      Mr. Youssef moved to draft letters from the Board to the delinquent owners, emphasizing that they “step up and pay dues.”  Seconded.
a.      Mr. Franke suggested one letter for those who owe less than $1000, and a very different letter for those who owe more.
b.      Mr. Franke noted that the sum of all delinquencies less than $1000 is about $6000. If those who owe less than $1000 pay up, the Association’s delinquency rate would be 10%.
c.       Vote: 4 Aye, 0 Nay.
4.      Mr. Youssef noted that the May 31, 2011 Summit report still stated: “Total Delinquent Special Assessments …$924,337.76.” Mr. Youssef noted that this is obviously not true.
a.      Plex unit owners paying their dues on time are not delinquent.  Look for the example of your mortgage. If you make your payments on time, the bottom line decreases. That is called your “pay-off amount.”
b.      The mechanism to pay the Special Assessment on time is $235 a month.
c.       The 74% delinquency rate might have been the reason we are not getting a loan from the bank, because credit bureaus and banks talk to each other.
                                                                  ii.      Mr. Youssef moved to close the meeting at 8:40 PM to discuss the current WTP report. Seconded. Vote: 4 Aye/ 0 Nay.
                                                                iii.      Acceleration of assessments upon default
1.      Mr. Franke noted that upon default of one or more payments, the entire balance of an assessment may be accelerated at the option of the Board of Directors.
2.      Mr. Youssef noted that when an account is sent to the lawyer for collection, it is out of our hands.
                                                                 iv.      Mr. Krueger noted that the cost for the lender questionnaire is about $35 (about 80% of the information in the questionnaire is recurring), plus another $35 to $50 for the settlement statement.
                                                                   v.      Mr. Krueger reported that he received the return receipt (dated May 23) for the Association’s Federal taxes, and one also for the MD taxes.
b.      Building envelope:
                                                                    i.      Bidding Summary (June 13)
1.      Mr. Youssef stated that the engineer received six bids for the project and is organizing the bids on a spreadsheet in order to choose one contractor.
a.      Comparison of unit prices
b.      Comparison of the parts of the project
                                                                                                                                            i.      Refurbishment of balconies
                                                                                                                                          ii.      Siding (sheathing, water barrier)
                                                                                                                                        iii.      Roof work (gaps and flashing)
2.      Prices of the bids range from $3M to $1.897M.
a.      All the bids are over our ball-park estimate. We need to sit down with the contractors to see why the prices are so high. All the contractors go to one whole-sale supplier in Baltimore. Why do they list different prices for the same products?  We’ll shake the price down drastically.
3.      The loan request is for $1.5M ($1.4M for the project, plus $100K in reserve.)
                                                                  ii.      Regarding the loan:
1.       Mr. Youssef said that after serious talks with a bank, we are hopeful that we will hear a positive response.
2.      We talked with that bank about our delinquencies, what we are going to do, terms of finance, and interest rate. We will deposit a year’s funds in advance in their bank.
3.      The loan is at the Underwriter. Instead of 5.5%, we expect they cannot give us less than 6%.
4.      We hope to start digging and working in July.
c.       ACC continuing business:
                                                                    i.      13035 B:
1.      The garage door has been replaced.
2.      The violation is hereby cleared.
3.      Mr. Krueger noted the door is not an exact match, but is close.
4.      Mr. Franke noted that the Association is responsible for painting the outside of doors, but recommends we wait on that.
                                                                  ii.      13061 B:
1.      An application for the urgent water heater vent cover replacement was mailed to the Association’s PO Box.
2.      The application is hereby approved and the unit owner is advised of Bylaws Article V, Section 21.
                                                                iii.      13049 B:
1.      The owners have not paid the fines levied and the costs incurred for repairs.
2.      Mr. Krueger suggested that the ACC forgive one of the fines if the owner were to pay the remaining $450.
3.      Mr. Youssef noted that the owners have exceeded the time (thirty days) to appeal.
4.      Mr. Krueger noted that the owners sent a nasty letter.
5.      Mr. Youssef stated that we have followed proper procedure, and that is the end of it. The fines and fees stand.
                                                                 iv.      20537 GCD:
1.      Mr. Krueger has resent to the unit owner’s address the letter regarding window a/c units, auto work on site, and the lease.
                                                                   v.      TH unit violations (as previously noted):
1.      13107 B: The required work has been done and the owner has responded by letter.  Violation hereby cleared.
2.      4 DPD and 20539 GCD: The required work has been done, but the owners have not yet responded by letter.
3.      Required work on the other units cited has not been done, as of the date of the last visit, nor have the owners responded.
d.      Drainage between Phases 6 and 7:
                                                                    i.      Mr. Krueger noted that making multiple proposals takes a vendors’ (eg, Bridget’s) time.
                                                                  ii.      Mr. Youssef stated that the Board has rejected previous proposals for valid reasons. This proposal is tabled in order to evaluate whether the two trees died because they were too close to each other, and whether to replace with only one tree.
e.      Discussion of Summit’s complaints regarding the May 18 Minutes:
                                                                    i.      Mr. Youssef asked that Mr. Krueger tell the Board of anybody abusing the accounting department.
                                                                  ii.      Mr. Krueger’s statement:
1.      He advised:
a.      The Board should remove the name of the Summit employee from the post of the draft minutes.
b.      He wanted to submit a short paragraph to be inserted into the May minutes, rejecting the Board’s position regarding the employee.
c.       The problem stems from the way the assessment was made.
2.      Mr. Krueger’s complaint about the amendment to the Minutes:
a.      The 30 or so words in six or seven sentences (bullets) do not accurately reflect what was spoken over five minutes.
b.      The addendum is a misquotation.
                                                                iii.      Mr. Youssef’s response:
1.       What was said was said in an open meeting. Twenty people heard what was said. It is out of our hands, and we cannot redo what has been done.
2.      In the same meeting, a request was made not to print the name of another person to avoid retaliation. Elan Krueger, you did not object during the meeting to naming the employee.
3.      As to the termination question: The short answer is that the Board and the Association will hold you to the terms of the contract until the end. There has been no cause. Mutual termination is not an option because we are awaiting a positive answer from a bank, we are working with a lawyer for FHA approval, and a contractor is putting together a huge proposal. We cannot throw all that into the trash because of a minute, juvenile dispute.
                                                                 iv.      Mr. Krueger rebutted:
1.      The minutes are not a record of what was said. They reflect what was done. The posted conversation is at best misleading or incomplete.
                                                                   v.      Mr. Youssef disagreed with that.
                                                                 vi.      Mr. Franke stated:
1.      Mr. Krueger may give his version of what happened.
2.      Mr. Krueger disputes the references. Moved to publish in these minutes the references from the Board’s June 2 review of Summit’s complaint:
a.      On July 28, 2009, the Board approved a resolution to adopt the rules contained in the current edition of Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised, which shall govern the Board in all cases to which they are applicable and in which they are not inconsistent with the bylaws and any special rules of order the Board may adopt. 
b.      Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised 10th Edition is the current edition. It states, in part:
                                                                                                                                            i.      Page 451: In an ordinary society, unless the minutes are to be published, they should contain mainly a record of what was done at the meeting, not what was said by the members.
                                                                                                                                          ii.      Page 452: Any correction is made in the text of the minutes being approved; the minutes of the meeting making the correction merely state that the minutes were approved “as corrected”…
                                                                                                                                        iii.      Page 456: The minutes of a meeting are normally read and approved at the beginning of the next regular meeting…Corrections, if any, and approval of the minutes are normally done by unanimous consent.
                                                                                                                                         iv.      Page 457: A draft of the minutes of the preceding meeting can be sent to all members in advance, usually with the notice…Correction of them and approval, however, is handled in the usual way. It must be understood in such a case that the formal copy placed in the minute book contains all corrections and that none of the many copies circulated to members and marked by them is authoritative…
c.       Seconded. Vote 3 Aye/ 1 Abstain.
             VII.      New Business (8:05)
a.      ACC new business:
                                                                    i.      13055 B:
1.      Applicant request:
a.      Add a ventilation pipe from furnace to roof.
b.      Add a larger a/c, moving the compressor a foot or more left (as seen from the street); remove a section of a fence.
c.       Move the electrical disconnect box to the sidewall by the entrance to 20546 GCD.
2.      Mr. Youssef noted that the application included signature of only one of the four property owners most affected by the change. Furthermore, the signer is the apparent renter at 20546 GCD, not the owner. The building has been completely refurbished. We cannot approve anything that causes a structural change. The fence is not an Association fence; we don’t care for it. We do care about removing the electrical box; that is a huge problem. There are already two other big units in that area; making space for another big unit would encroach outside perimeter of conformity of the a/c units.
3.      George Stillman (guest) requested the floor. He stated:
a.      The Code evolves over time. You don’t have to comply with a change until you replace it. Can’t argue with the County on this issue.
b.      There are two issues.
                                                                                                                                            i.      First is a request for combustion air for safety issues. Originally, the furnace drew air through a vent connected to the living space. This unit has a gas fireplace. To replace the furnace, requires air. Will use a roof kit and assume all liability. Can go up or to the side.
                                                                                                                                          ii.      The new a/c condensing units on the ground are larger. Cannot set the unit to the right because of a sewer cleanout, plus needed distance from the gas meter.  Will protrude a few inches out to left. Regarding the disconnect box, the desire of the Association and the Code are irreconcilable: 3’ of clearance in front of the box, plus 15” L/R offset. The Inspector has looked at it and the County will not grant an exception.
c.       The owner cannot occupy the unit. Cost is not the issue.
4.      Mr. Youssef: We want the homeowner to be happy, but we must reconcile differences. This is a refurbished building. Please produce the name of the Inspector and the cited County Code. We are not fighting this. We want it done in the right way.
5.      Continued the 13055 B ACC hearing to 7 PM, Friday, June 17, in front of 20546 GCD.
b.      Continued the calendar for the Oct 26 election to the next regular meeting.
           VIII.      Community Forum (8:20‐8:30)
a.      Howard Coward asked how the delinquency rate is calculated.
b.      Bernadette Owen asked if we will make loan without community interaction.
                                                                    i.      Mr. Youssef stated that we will.
                IX.      Motion to adjourn to a closed session (8:40)
                  X.      Closed session (8:45)
a.      Session was closed to review WTP cases.
b.      Two Structura bills need payment. Send copies.
c.       Mr. Krueger may put together a statement to clarify what he said during the meeting of May concerning the accounting.
                XI.      Adjournment (9:50)